I was thinking about how clever my upline "big pin" was. I still believe that he is very clever. If I ever talk to him again, I will still be impressed. He is so convincing and dynamic! That's why I never want to talk to any of my up lines :-).
Nice guy, except that he is still exactly like how he was during his U.G. years. If you listened to his CD you know that he says he used to get things done, but would leave a trail of destruction behind! "Get it done one way or the other"! "Hook or by crook" philosophy!
I thought about something that happened couple of years ago... I had a down line IBO of mine whom I was "counseling". I asked him what his goal was and he told me he wanted to save $60,000/yr in 2 years and use it as a down payment to buy a home. I was impressed by his goal, but I did not know how to give him a game plan. I was already in for 5 years and making $200/month. I could not "act" like I had that much in my savings via "my business". I had barely gotten out of debt then. I told him I would ask my up line to give him a game plan. I was feeling bad and I called my up line. I asked my upline "My down line wants to make this much. How could I help him make that much when I am not making that much?" To this my upline initially stuttered - but I told you he is clever - he responded by asking me how much I am making. I told him my (pathetic) income of $200 to $300/month. He told me I should first get my down line to start making that much and then worry about the rest later! I was convinced by hearing that!
But I was spending $1,500/month or more each month, spending close to 50 hours per week doing all the 9 core steps and making $200 to $300/month... my up line wanted me to teach that to my down line. I thought that down line will definitely save $60,000 in 3 years if he first quit Amway and started saving 25% of his job income!
I've got news for you. If you were spending $1,500/month overhead to generate $200 in gross profit, you were losing $1,300/month in negative net profit.
ReplyDeleteI bet your upline told you that you were a huge success earning $200 a month! The facts don't matter right?
ReplyDeleteDude your upline sounds BRUTAL. Are most IBOs in BWW like that? I'm a part of WWDB and my upline have never been so aggressive and negative.
ReplyDeleteGreat posts!Expose them!I know many people lost their not only Money their precious time life too.This blog could create awareness to them ,save their rest of life!Keep it up!
ReplyDeleteNot only can you not argue with your upline, but if you try they will sit you down in front of the pastor for the LOA.
ReplyDeleteMy husband and I where sat down in front of Paul Tsika who told us we where all wrong and that our upline was always right????
Then he actually looked me over a few times , what a creepy old man. I am not surprised he was recently exposed for sleeping around on his wife with pastor daughters!
I feel bad you have an upline like that. My upline is a very sharp helping man.
ReplyDeletehey man, i'm waiting for more posts! please keep them coming.
ReplyDeleteEagle, thanks for posting on my ambot.0 blog. I'm interested in creating a "testimonials" page on my blog and I'd like it if you would submit one. Feel free to cut and paste. Message me if you'd like. Thanks much!
ReplyDeleteI just did a comprehensive post in my tax blog on how Amway IBO's have fared in Tax Court. Not well. One of the common comments the Court makes to show lack of serious business purpose is the reliance on upline advice which is not disinterested.
ReplyDeletehttp://riles52.blogspot.com/2011/06/selling-soap-as-hobby-amway-ibos-in-tax.html
I quit the business after 5 years. My wife and I both were working each making 75K. We saved 50K in a yeas by banking one salary each month. We used to spend much of that income on buying products, purchasing tools, attending long distance rallys, flying around to help long distance business. After quiting, we purchased a home by putting 50k as down payment. We continued with our saving plan and refilled the 50K savings. We can afford to also have a care taker for our little one who comes home. We think we can continue with our savings plan easily for another 8-10 years. If I had continued in the biz I doubt I would have made the same amount. Let's not even talk abt all the time lost for my family spinning cicrcles.
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